After Corbyn in Edinburgh scope of blog beyond content, now context

I have updated my pinned tweet to link to  a blog post
explaining how I see things fit together. Corbyn Edinburgh
speech on media seems to me to mark a point at which
there is more going on. Not just Labour trying to get a message
through UK media. There is a connection between Labour
and a large audience online, mostly younger than
the newspapers support.

Current guess is that Guardian / Observer is most likely going
to stick with other newspapers and knock Corbyn in a softer
sort of style. Not sure why. Like Mirror, could get an audience
if they worked with Labour a bit more, but seem stuck on a
Centrist approach that may or may not attract enthusiasm
at scale.

Couple of examples.

Twitter is a boot stamping on the face of irony

Says Matthew d’Ancona with reason for today to reject Corbyn.
Photo from Edinburgh but no mention of
what Corbyn actually said.

More grumbles about Twitter from John Harris, worried about
the shrill belligerence of the Corbyn hardcore. I notice there is
rarely any recognition that quite a lot of Twitter users may be
casual supporters of Corbyn or just sometime Labour voters.
Rarely represented in the Guardian columns.

And another thing

William Keegan on Brexit. He is impatient with Labour MPs
who represent Leave constituencies “( sometimes this would
be put in the context of wanting to honour the views of their
constituents, you understand). “  Irony alert.
To be clear I think Keegan is saying “Forget about the people
who might or might not vote Labour. Observer readers in the
City and South West London are getting annoyed.”
Meanwhile I think there is a genuine conversation inside Labour.

Somehow in several paragraphs about the Durham miners
Keegan avoids any mention of recent Corbyn speech on
industrial policy. Just as he was not reported during referendum
when off message from Cameron script.

See other posts, I am just repeating stuff.
But scope just expanded to wider context of
newspapers, not just the content.

update on Corbyn and Guardian

See previous post. Now through Twitter news about a new party , with link to "chicken coup" .  (their term) 26 June 2016

couple of things

The first to break cover were Margaret Hodge and Ann Coffey, two experienced backbenchers, who tabled a motion of no confidence in Corbyn to be discussed at a meeting of the parliamentary Labour party on Monday. 

Don't remember this being much mentioned recently.

During that calm call, Benn told his boss that he no longer had confidence in him to lead the Labour party and could not continue to serve in the shadow cabinet under him. The only thing he denied was having leaked details of the insurrection to the Observer. Corbyn sacked him straightaway.

Contrasts with later versions about "Benn sacked in middle of the night". If a party leader is told about a lack of confidence what is expected? If Benn knew nothing about press briefing ( Sunday times as well as Observer ) someone else did it? someone at Guardian Media Group may know where a story comes from. Anyway this is just a blog, sort of thing will clear up sometime. Just my impression lots of contact between media and PLP, probably much the same then as now.

 a small group of Labour MPs and advisers had been telling journalists for months to “expect movement” against Corbyn on 24 June.

any guess as to who? which journalists?

and what actually happened during the referendum? Did Corbyn control much of the office machine? who made the decision for Lord Darling to share a platform? see previous posts

Probably the details will continue as mystery. But this blog wil make some guess just to speed up new posts with some background. see also Fleet Street in Europe and Cyberspace.

Paul Chadwick on Corbyn

Today in print Paul Chadwick in Open Door on how Guardian readers complain about reporting on Jeremy Corbyn. He hopes there will be a slowing down in a mix of "imprecision, incivility and presumption of bad faith". He is trying to find out what the complaints may be about. They are now a "steady trickle" but not back to mid 2016. there was a lull after the "strong performance" in 2017 election. Presumably the complaints follow some pattern in Guardian content. Just my guess "incivility" is not random.

Some issues can wait till IPSO reports, though I notice very little comment in the Guardian about other newspapers.

On other pages Lord Adonis , page 8, has a lot of space to claim that Labour policy on Brexit must change. Towards the end there is mention that "party strategists" calculate they have remain support so "prospects are reliant on "working class leave voters". There is more background to this. During the referendum Corbyn did not just repeat the alarmist City supporting lines that Cameron was pushing. He did not share a platform as suggested by Lord Mandelson. My impression ( see blog Fleet Street in Europe and Cyberspace ) was that Corbyn made a solid case based on worker rights, environment etc. Not well reported, not much supported by those MPs who very quickly started a blame game soon after.

It could be that Guardian readers are not upset about anything specific, just an accumulation. there was a change in attitude after 2017 election but this seems to have slipped away. To be fair Hilary Wainwright ( Opinion p4) mentions speech at Durham Miners Gala but no detail on industrial strategy, regional policy, topics that Corbyn has consistently promoted during the referendum and since.

Many Guardian readers can remember what happened over about two or three years, more vaguely for longer. the Guardian could be a bit more obvious what it thinks it was doing. Also what the PLP and media connections were doing. There is a lot of stuff we are not told.

My guess is that after last week issue the New European will not get many new readers from potential Corbyn fans, since he is leader of a large party this may be a significant part of potential income and influence. I happen to think stopping Brexit is important, more important than knocking Corbyn so I am just confused as to what they are on about.

Possibly going off topic now, but hope this helps Paul Chadwick.

using @guardian on Twitter, cannot find Guardian open door.